Hard Reset

The Arne Slot era is over. After a title winning season in his debut, season 2 got so bad that FSG felt the need to pull the plug and go in a different direction. Andoni Iraola is the reported frontrunner for the position. 

What went wrong for Slot - and is Iraola the answer?

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

You're listening to America's Anfield, the Liverpool FC podcast brought to you by American Brothers Matt and Johnny. From the heart of the U.S. to the COP, we're talking all things reds every week. Welcome everyone back to another episode of America's Anfield. Johnny here with Matt. The season is over. The Champions League is closed. We're approaching World Cup time. But you know, there's a lot going on. There's a lot going on that we want to, as for our dedicated listeners and fans, of which there are many, we want to give you some hot content, hot off the presses, because we got a lot to talk about. We have a new coach, manager?

SPEAKER_02 0:52

Yeah, can I crack the ceremonial can on this podcast? Ready?

SPEAKER_00 0:56

Oh, yeah, let's go. Oh yeah, there we go. I need like a wissy look, you know, or something like that. You do.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

What do we got there? I mean, it's not alcoholic beer yet again, but it's you know, it's summer, man. I I gotta not look like a total slob at the pool at the beach.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

So true. It's yeah, that's right. It's swimsuit weather, you know, gotta get right. It is um uh no, not me, not me, not me. Um so on that note, we have I I did say, is he a coach or a manager? Who? Iriola. He's a coach. So not he doesn't get to pick the groceries.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

No. I think that's partly why we said no to uh Alonso.

SPEAKER_00 1:39

Correct, because he demanded to pick the groceries.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

Uh either that and or we we don't think he's a good coach. One of the two. Maybe both.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

Yeah. It feels like that's the case. Uh well, let's dive off, let's dive off and launch in there. How are you feeling about all that? Slot out, are you feeling happy?

SPEAKER_02 1:58

Yeah, so I I I woke up Saturday morning like most Liverpool fans, and you know, slot was still the coach at the time, and Arsenal still had a chance to win the Champions League. And then I ended the day, and slot was gone, which I'm being a little tongue-in-cheek. We don't want people to lose their jobs. You know, we're human beings. Okay. And, you know, Gabrielle pulled uh Roberto Baggio and skyed his penalty, and and um they did not win the Champions League, and that was a really good day for me and a lot of fans who just don't like them. That's true.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

I believe his penalty kick is way up there with Keppas uh from the Craig Cup.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

I think he watched a lot of tape. He was like, How do I, you know, could I could I kick it even higher than Kevin?

SPEAKER_00 2:49

Will I went up him? Yes, that's right. I can outdo him.

SPEAKER_02 2:52

That's right. That's right. So um I mean, look, frankly, like this had to happen. So with slot, it just it just did. And I think you and I have been pretty, you know, polite about it on our podcast. So I and like I said, I don't want people to lose their jobs, but I don't understand the camp that wanted to run this back next season. Like, how is this gonna be any better? It just wasn't. And um, yes, it's a risk, and we can get into some of the the data points that are being kind of thrown around at Eriola right now, which I think are sort of ridiculous and misleading, but winning percentage. The winning percentage, yeah, exactly. But um, I mean, when you're faced with, okay, you know, we could just continue down this road, which has its own issues, or take a risk and change it. I mean, sometimes you just have to take a risk and change it. We already know what this is gonna be like, you know. So in my mind, we had to make a change. Was there a Jurgen Klopp out there? No. You know, so we didn't want to give apparently Jabby Alonso any sort of power over uh transfers. So this is one of the best options, in my opinion, out there. I think there were some people that wanted the uh the coach from Germany, for example. Um Honus. Stuart, right? I'm sure I'm sure I'm nailing that pronunciation. Honest. Yeah. Um, but you know, I think it's for the best. Um remember, you know, we finished with 60 points, which that is, I think, the you know, lowest uh that we've gotten in years, and normally would get nowhere close to qualifying for the Champions League. Um and also remember that uh you know, this is a team that looked very different all the way back in March of 2025 when Diogo Jota was still with us, and so like we've used that you know, not excuse, but that reason a lot. Um and um, you know, that like and I get it. I totally get why we would have um you know a carryover effect and be like in a fog in the first you know quarter of the season, but it hadn't gotten any better by the end, you know. So so anyway, I was hoping and expecting that we would do this. I was actually gonna be really, really, really down on FSG, on Hughes, on Edwards in general, if we just decided to kind of run this back again.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

Yes, I do feel very similarly. Um I was a little bit concerned, and still, you know, to your point, am a little concerned um with if we're gonna sack him, let's make sure we know who we want. Short-term contract with Iriola. So apparently he enjoys that, wants to prove himself, feels a little cloppy, which I like. I can make that an adjective. Uh, I think the interesting thing for me is now, once this happens, reports are starting to come out of sort of the reasons why we thought the the sacking should take place. The biggest ones, at least for me, are um kind of losing the locker room. Seems like that was the case, clearly losing the fan base, which I don't know that I don't know that Edwards cares about that, but but others probably will, ownership being one of them. And then I think the interesting one too that's come out is uh not caring about development whatsoever. And so some of the younger guns and all the coaches involved kind of were like, hey man, he just didn't seem like he cared at all. Uh I also I also have seen, again, I don't want to bag the whole guy because I I do think he's a good coach. Um, and obviously won a title his first year, which is nothing to sneeze at. I did read as well that the comparative, like the training schedule is really odd. Took a lot of holidays, family never moved over here, seems sort of I don't know, call it distracted at times. Uh I think I think I've read others say uninterested. I think that's harsh. But yeah, all these things coming out now. And hopefully, you know, people aren't saying deceptive things or untrue things just to pile it on. But yeah, it seems like it was time.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

Yeah, and and like I kind of teased before, if you keep going down the road with slot, he hadn't given any indication that he was gonna change any of that. Like, were we gonna train more? I'd not I had not heard that, right? And then the other thing is I'm really curious now that we're pivoting, what is our player recruitment going to be like this summer? Because if you stay with slot, we're gonna continue with this like technical, non-physical, you know, profile of a player when I I really feel like that can work in Europe to an extent, but that's not where the Premier League is right now. And you know, we which I do want to get into, we gave away and and and you know, got rid of a lot of that type of player last summer and brought in guys, no, and I'm not, you know, I'm not um taking a dig at anybody, but like brought in, you know, a guy like Florian Verts, who's not a physical monster, he's a highly skilled technical player. And so it felt like we were kind of shifting to that profile. So if you if you dig in with slot, that's who we're gonna buy this summer. If you turn around and then sack him next fall, we've made the problem worse, right? So I feel like we really were at a place where we had to say, do we want to continue to run down this path? And it's gonna cost us money and it's gonna mean more players. And if we have to pivot, like we have kind of screwed ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 8:33

Yeah. Well, and and yeah, it's exactly right. Is it's one thing if it just paused and we could say, hey, let's run that back exactly as is, but that was never gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

That's not gonna happen either. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

Do we want more of that? Clearly not, to invest in those sorts of things. In fact, it's funny you mentioned that I read, or maybe it was a video. Uh, not that I love ESPN for soccer coverage, but that was the French guy's name, LeBouff. LeBouff. Uh literally was like, hey, they need to get more physical this summer. Like, need to. I think he's right.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

He is. He is 100%. So yeah, I'm starting a Darwin Nunez back to Liverpool petition for those who want to sign it. I'm sure we'll get a good deal. Probably not that much money, maybe no money.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

I heard it was he was gonna be a I mean, obviously you had to have a contract, but it was it's on a free, right? He's free.

SPEAKER_02 9:20

I don't know. He's free.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

I think they cut, I think they got rid of his contract. Like there's no sale.

SPEAKER_02 9:25

Yeah, so but I'm like I said, I'm I'm very interested now with, I mean, hasn't been like announced, announced confirmed, but let's assume that that we get uh Iriola in, what type of guy he wants to recruit. So I'm highly positive about it. Before we get to him, what do you think did slot in ultimately? You know, what what was it one thing? Was it a number of things? Because you know, you kind of touched on the academy, touched on the fact that we really kind of went away from our clop roots, which is fine, but we went away from M and we went from high intensity to you know, whatever we you call us now, mid, low intensity, I don't know. You know, right? No training, like whatever. And he had there were things that happened that were not his fault. There were injury issues, and obviously the Joda thing. Who could possibly, but I'm just saying, what do you think? Like what was was it was there one thing that hopped out to you, or was it like a a bunch of things that kind of just ended up being you know, too much in aggregate?

SPEAKER_00 10:27

I think I would say this. I I think there are a ton of things. I think the thing that I would say is, and I've read reports that they had data concerns at least since October. Um, and I think if you know, if I'm if I'm going back then and saying, ooh, what were the issues that were abundant then that maybe weren't, or I guess other things that hadn't sort of manifest themselves yet uh at that point in the season, he seemed to he seemed to lose for me the predictable or the edge to be able to navigate an adaptability within a game. I think like the one of the things that he was so good at last season, his first season, was you know, we could be playing poorly, have a rough start, have a slow start, and I think all of us collectively as fans were like, if we can make it to halftime, he's gonna be like, guys, we need to do this, this, this, and this. And we'd come out, different team, a lot more, you know, pace and ideas, and usually navigate the game well to a win. This season, I think people just figured him out. I don't know exactly what that looks like tactically. And I don't know that we want to get in the weeds of a tactical podcast. However, I think that was that between that and sort of the just slow and lackadaisical starts that seemed to be just time after time after time, I think that to me is what did it in. It just seemed like he could, and then you can go into like the locker room or the the relational personal piece of it, but I think I think for me what did him in was his inability to adjust in games and how he consistently could not get fast starts from the team. Again, and I know that's not all his fault, but that's what I would say.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

So I think a couple of things. Um, number one, to kind of give uh an American sports analogy, if you think about college coaches, and this is true in the pros too, there's a list you could go look it up of college or pro coaches who have come in and done really well with the other guys' players for a season, okay, or even two, and then long-term, like just didn't work. And, you know, once it was kind of on them to recruit, develop, train, whatever else, it just didn't work. Now, I'm not, you know, it's tough to accuse slot of that in only two seasons, you know, because it's not like we gave him five or six and then we could we could concretely say that, but you know, I think most people could at least wonder, like last season, I'm not trying to like, and I know it feels like I'm not trying to like take credit away from him, but like that was slots or that was sorry, Klopp's team, right? Yeah, and we gutted that team substantially this past summer, and it was much more quote unquote his team and and obviously Hughes and Edwards too, and you saw the results, you know. So, like I think there's a part of that. I mean, um, yeah, I thought it was really telling if you really think about it. How shocking is it that the guy wins a title in year one and does not get a contract extension? Like, I did that's baffling. And so I don't know if that means they were worried or like had concerns already, you know? Um, but like you handpick this guy to take over for Klopp, which is an enormous task, he does phenomenally well, you know, and we don't give a contract. That's one, but for me, the biggest thing was we messed up last summer so bad. And I think that he shares some percentage of the blame. It's not just him, like it's Hughes and Edwards, too. Yeah, but to take a team that pretty much walked the league. I mean, it really wasn't that close from about January on, we kind of had it wrapped, right? And then if you think about you know, PSG is now a back-to-back Champions League winner, right? And last year's team, it was a smash and grab, but one in Paris. Harvey Elliott scores late on an assist from Darwin Nunez. And then, in my opinion, outplays PSG in the second leg. We lose in penalties, but I I don't think we had anything to be ashamed of from that effort at all. Right? No. So, and then we got that team. And a lot of not just who we brought in, but who we just let go in retrospect. I just think it's a lot of questions. You know what I mean? Like again, like take someone like Nunez. I know he's not popular with a lot of Liverpool fans, but like the stuff that he did off the ball and the the work rate that he had and the pressing and and the ability to kind of like let Mo Salah be able to attack, for example. Um, Kwanzaa is a huge one, makes no sense. And now Kanate is gone, and it makes even less sense, right? Um, so so anyway, you know, and then bringing in Isak, I'll never get it. I mean, like, I you know, and I know it's hindsight, and neither one of us were like, you know, Isak, what terrible, but but at the same time, like that was such a stupid, like, luxury. We didn't need to do that signing. Um, so I think that's ultimately what did him in. Like this year's squad plus some of the tactical stuff, like just wasn't gonna work. And, you know, like what percentage of the planning is he in? Who knows? It could it could be that he was just the guy who's like, hey, you know, you're you're Hughes and I'm slide, and you're like, hey, what do you think about uh Isak? And I'm like, yeah, I'll figure it out, I'll make it work. Maybe maybe that's all it is, but um, but anyway, I think that the summer did him in.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

That's fair. So pivoting there, the new guy.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

Adone, Adoni, Ariola, nailed it. Andoni Andoni. Andoni Ariola. Um not Italian, but no. Not Italian. He's from Spain. Basque, yeah. Basque. Lovely, lovely place. Uh so I think that the the pros for me with him is it seems as though he's highly adaptable to adjusting with player profiles and teams, especially knowing this past summer his team was quite gutted, and he still got them into sixth place overall in the table, correct? Yeah, I mean, sort of unreal.

SPEAKER_02 17:07

Yeah, you think about they lost a center back to Real Madrid, they lost a player to PSG, they lost Kirkhez to Liverpool, you know, among other people. And the thing that can we talk about the win percentage thing now? Like that to me is so funny. So let's just use our brains. Okay, because I just saw people regurgitating this stat. So, number one, for those of you who did, you know, you're like, oh, he has a 38% win percentage as a manager and a burn myth, what did he ever win? And I'm like, well, that tells me a couple things. You don't watch Burnmouth, you did a Google search, good for you. And you know, like there's no context with anything, because I like I've said before on the pod, like I kind of live in this world with anything with data analysis, like everybody goes in with sort of a bias already. And so once you find the data point that supports your bias, you just like stop. And so, like, for those who are like Ariel is a you know terrible choice for Liverpool and we could do better, you find that and you're like, Oh yeah, see? He sucks. He's at Bournemouth, guys. He's not coaching at Man City and has a 38% win percentage. Of course, he wouldn't get the job if that was the case. If you look at Klopp at Mainz, do you know what his win percentage was? 40%.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

Oh, close.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

40%. Okay. I mean, like, and I think everybody understands why. You know, they were like a relegation team. I think they even brought them up, didn't he? So you know, you context is important. Burnmouth is not a team that is expected to finish in the top half of the league on a regular basis. So that's one. Two, and you've done this analysis a lot. The win percentage thing is a little bit misleading. Like, let's look at the loss percentage, okay, which is 32% at Burnmouth. Okay, so he's winning or drawing two of every three games. Yeah, a little bit more than that. Um, and uh to me, that's actually really impressive, given the fact that he's at a small club, given the fact that they don't have a huge transfer budget, given the fact that he has to deal with young players all the time and he's developing them, and then he knows they're gonna get sold. Uh by the way, I forgot Semenu in that list, obviously going to City, right?

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:31

Um, middle of the year, no less, and they still finished, you know, in the Europa League places. So um, I just think what you're looking at is, and it's funny how this happens in coaching. You fire somebody and you basically hire the antithesis of that person, right? So it's like, okay, we need to get we need the opposite of Arney slot. We need somebody who embraces the academy, we need somebody who is fine rotating, we need somebody who's high intensity, high pressure, you know, like uh style of soccer. We need blah blah blah blah blah. So he fits all those boxes. Um to me, the other thing I think that'll be really important is that he tell me what you think. Like, I think he plays the way that people kind of fell in love with during the Klopp era. He plays more that way. And you know, at the end of the day, I think Liverpool fans are really smart for the most part, obviously. Like they're very, right? I mean, like I'm saying the fans that go to the game, forget Twitter. Like they're very smart, they're very educated on the game. So if you're winning, maybe they can deal with a little bit more of a what you call like boring, dull. But then we weren't winning. You know what I mean? So, so to me, um, you know, at least from the outside looking in, it seems like it it ticks a lot of boxes, except for the fact that probably the biggest negative is he's I don't think he's managed in Europe. And so now, you know, you've really got to factor in. And that's not about like tactically going up against Luis Enrique. It's more about how do you manage your schedule?

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Well, the interesting thing about that as well is I've read a lot of reports that he's not bringing in a whole coaching staff. He's only bringing in a few. And there's a lot of smoke, a lot of rumors that he's going to bring in both Liverpool, like former players or people that kind of understand Liverpool context, which is great, then also people that have played and understand how to rotate and manage kind of in those things. I mean, you've had names of like everybody from Thiago to Milner, uh, you know, others like that, even um, oh gosh, uh Matt Ep and and others. Uh and so I think you're gonna get a little bit of that context, uh, at least from the player side of things and help in that regard. But yeah, that it that'll be a trick. But I also think the nice thing is he seemingly is ready to rely on a whole host of different types of players versus. Let's just throw the same squad out, rinse, and repeat until they're dead. I will say, have you read the articles of uh he seems very clap-like in the way that he trains as well? Yeah. His training schedule sounds brutal.

SPEAKER_02 22:13

Well, there was a Semenya video you probably saw where he's like, there are no days off. He was like, We would have just played Saturday and they would train Sunday, which that is, you know. Um but it's common, I think, to do it when you haven't played. Like if you're one of the guys who gets no minutes, I think that's common, but it's not another thing for you. If you if you actually played 80 you know the day before, you're not training on Sunday.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

Right. And he'll, I'm sure he'll, you know, make some adjustments for guys that, you know, like the Van Dykes of the World, etc. But um I I think one of the things that I also noticed this season is seems like we used to be one of the fittest teams there on the pitch. And I don't mean like healthy-wise, I mean like we could run circles around you, and man, that dropped off. It did. That was noticeably different.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

Well, you know, and you think about again, and and and this is where I feel for slot as an aside. Like, I, you know, it's so hard to follow Klopp. And and like we knew that was gonna be a problem. And I do think that his struggles exacerbated that because people were like, oh, like just be more like Klopp. Like, even like Sala in his post at the end of the year, like the heavy metal football reference. Yeah. Um, but anyway, where I was going with that is that I feel like the heavy metal, high pressure, high-intensity chaos style really, really meshed well with the atmosphere at Anfield, too. The like we just embraced it, like that became a cauldron to go there. And I think that that style really, really made Anfield really intimidating, too. Like, if that makes any sense at all. And so I I honestly think that that could also be sort of a big unlock again. Because we we talked about on a pod recently, like what has to change, and one of the things was like we became so ordinary at home, you know.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

So anyway, that's kind of like you know, how you know, like Arsenal plays like this nasty brand of football, but like kind of makes sense in the turd cloud of the Emirates. So you know, like we can't help it. Yeah, just environments, you know, they matter, they matter. That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, my bad, my bad, guys. Right. Good for you.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

So, you know, so look at the end of the day, is it a risk? It is. It is, of course it is. Two years, right? Two years, two years. But what what higher wasn't gonna be a risk? Truly, you know what I mean? Truly, yeah. So that's my counter. Like my counter is keeping slot massive risk, and then anybody else, risk. So if you're including Alonzo, including Alonzo. If you're whiteboarding, you're Hughes, you're like, all right, option A, risk, option B, risk, option C risk. Okay, you know, it looks like I'm picking a risk.

unknown 24:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

I mean, again, I know there are reports on that we're waiting to see and waiting for Champions League to be done, but like Luis Enrique would be a risk. He's never managed in the Premier League. That's different.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

So it is 100%. Yeah. Um so maybe we just kind of wrap with this, keep this on the shorter side. Would there be any surprise exits because of Iriola coming in? Because I know we've talked a lot about hey, the profile's gonna change. We're gonna maybe bring in more physical players, whatever else. Is there anybody that's glaringly like, yeah, that guy doesn't fit that might leave?

SPEAKER_01 25:34

Hmm. Um I think uh it's almost the inverse to me.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

I think actually it makes space for some guys that haven't been there. So I think if the likes of like Jones, maybe he's perking up saying, like, oh, obviously he was fallen out with slot, but like I think he could have a bigger role there. He being one of the more physical midfielders that we have. Um, I think of Harvey Elliott. I think there's a a world in which he could have a role. I don't know what type of role uh where he was written off before. So I think of those guys kind of coming back in. Um, and then I I do think the likes of like Neone and Rio and people like that are at least excited because they're like, hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get an honest run here. Who knows if I'll you know get a lot of playing time or whatever. But it's not like I'm cast off into the depths if I'm in the academy. Uh I wonder about, I still I I don't know that this is new because of Ariola, but I wonder about the likes of like a Mac, uh, where just trying to figure out, we obviously gave a new deal to grab, you know, defensive midfielder, there's there's ads and things like that. But um I wonder about him just because of the same conversation we've had, where how many people can we have sort of play in the same position? Um, and and where do we see everybody sort of lining up between the likes of like Verts, him, Jones, Dom? Uh it's getting crowded, especially if we add. So I think I think that's one that I still just have a question mark about. I think the others that are probably going to leave are probably going to leave anyway. I'm actually a little surprised that Allison stayed, but he'll probably just finish his contract out. We like letting guys go in for free.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

Letting guys go for free is our jam. That's the movie. We love it. We love it. So a couple came to mind. Um, for me, like, I don't really know where Frim Pong fits. Um, you know, like to me, like he had a tough year, he was injured a lot, obviously, but you know, he's obviously pretty small, not physical. He's quick, you know, but like I don't know. Does he fit on an Iriola team? I don't know. Maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 27:42

Just sort of an iffy squad player, too, you know.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Yeah, yeah. So I'm not entirely sure of that fit today. Could be wrong, but and then the midfield is is to me, the central midfield's the biggest thing he's got to figure out. Um we've talked about this a lot, but it's like is is Vertz the 10? If Vertz is the 10, okay. You know, do you do you play with a double pivot of Grav and Dom? Dom, I don't think, is a double pivot guy. You know, I don't see that. Um what happens with Mac, like you said, Jones? Does he like Graven Burke at the six? No idea. Um, and you're right, we just signed into a contract, but I mean I would imagine that Grav has plenty of value on the market. Who knows? Yeah. So I think the midfield's a big one he has to kind of figure out. Um, and and and that could force maybe a you know a departure or two.

SPEAKER_00 28:39

Yeah, no, that's a good shot. And and uh um Frimpong did meet the Wor Cup squad, so like he's just sitting at home. I mean, I think injury had a big part of that, but probably for the best, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 28:50

Just give him, let him fully recover and have the summer off.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

Let those hammies just you know, reattach. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah, I don't know. I don't have I don't have many others, but yeah, that's a good shout.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

Yeah, no, well, okay, I'll just end with this thought. I mean, I think that to have hope and excitement for next season, we unfortunately needed to make a change. So thank you to Arnie Slot for for for the title. Seriously, like that was you know, we were all super sad and nervous when Klopp left and had no idea what to expect. And I thought that he did an incredible job. That said, I think if he had stayed, the amount of apathy that I think would have been kind of hovering over Liverpool as we entered August would have been really weird. And so I think now, fresh start, we can be hopeful. Hopefully, we have a good summer, you know, on the recruitment stage, Richard. Um, and you know, we can have excitement going into next season.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

That'd be great.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

I would love that. That's all I'm looking for. I'm not even I've like title contender is like out the window. Like, I just want to see exciting, you know, we're building on something coherent, whatever that you know, like a plan. That's what I want to see.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

Yeah, agreed, agreed. I'm here for it.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

All right, good stuff. Well, uh summer is here, and we will try to podcast more now. I think we can. We can do this, right? So, yeah, you know, I know it's been quite a while since our last episode, but to be honest, there really wasn't much to pot about. Like we were bad.

SPEAKER_00 30:27

Yeah, don't want to celebrate other teams, you know.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

Well, I can't get on that the mic every every week and be like, so what'd you think of that, you know, turdball we just watched for 90 minutes?

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Right. Nice draw there at the end. Super. Right.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

So all right. Um, let's call it, man. You brought it today.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

Good work. You brought it. You brought it.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

Give the people what they want. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll definitely see you again soon.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

Uh for Johnny on Matt. Thanks for listening. We'll catch you next time.

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